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In order to make sure that more people have a chance to purchase Wyrms at a convention, we have daily limits set on how many of any single item a person may purchase. The following are the default purchase limits at conventions. Limits may be raised/lowered depending on the availability of convention stock. Please check with CDF staff for the current event's limitations.
 
In order to make sure that more people have a chance to purchase Wyrms at a convention, we have daily limits set on how many of any single item a person may purchase. The following are the default purchase limits at conventions. Limits may be raised/lowered depending on the availability of convention stock. Please check with CDF staff for the current event's limitations.
  
=== 2025 Convention Limits ===  
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=== Default Convention Limits ===  
 
* You may purchase a max of '''FOUR (4)''' Tea-Cup Blind-draw Wyrms per day.
 
* You may purchase a max of '''FOUR (4)''' Tea-Cup Blind-draw Wyrms per day.
 
* You may purchase an additional '''ONE (1)''' Blind-draw Mule Nest Wyrm per day.
 
* You may purchase an additional '''ONE (1)''' Blind-draw Mule Nest Wyrm per day.
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== Convention Pick-Ups ==
 
== Convention Pick-Ups ==
  
Often times, our handlers are more than willing to go out of their way to help out others in the community. Handlers may request someone to do a pick-up for them by posting on [http://cruinndracfarms.com/wyrmforum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=885 THIS TOPIC].
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Often times, our handlers are more than willing to go out of their way to help out others in the community. Handlers may request someone to do a pick-up for them by posting on [https://discord.com/channels/585110316745228288/1288923999883100300 Pickup Requests].
 
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Pick-ups are great. They are an awesome opportunity for people who don't get a chance to get out to cons to still have a chance to get Wyrms. However, we've recently had some complaints and issues regarding Pick-ups, so we would like people who are offering Pick-ups as well as those interested in asking for them to please review this document, as it will be policy going forward.
 
Pick-ups are great. They are an awesome opportunity for people who don't get a chance to get out to cons to still have a chance to get Wyrms. However, we've recently had some complaints and issues regarding Pick-ups, so we would like people who are offering Pick-ups as well as those interested in asking for them to please review this document, as it will be policy going forward.
 
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'''1. A person may not use a slot to do a pick-up for someone attending the con.'''<br>
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'''1. A person may not use a slot to do a pick-up for someone attending the con with the intention of getting that handler beyond their daily limit.'''<br>
We have hard limits on the number of Wyrms a person may purchase at a convention. A handler may not use one of their slots to get another handler beyond their limit of Wyrms per day. In the case of wanting to purchase a gift or present for a birthday or holiday such as Christmas, please speak to us first before making the purchase to get this cleared with us in advance.  
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We have hard limits on the number of Wyrms a person may purchase at a convention. A handler may not use one of their slots to get another handler beyond their limit of Wyrms per day. In the case of wanting to purchase a gift or present for a birthday or holiday such as Christmas, you may do so but you should inform the staff at the table.
 
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'''2. A person offering pick-ups may not always be able to fill your request.'''<br>
 
'''2. A person offering pick-ups may not always be able to fill your request.'''<br>
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'''3. A person doing pick-ups should be fair in filling requests.'''<br>
 
'''3. A person doing pick-ups should be fair in filling requests.'''<br>
If you have one person requesting four Wyrms, and four people requesting one each, you should really try to be fair about filling your pick-up requests. Get one for each person, and then if you have time to go back and get additional ones for the larger order, great! Obviously, we've all got friends here, and we want to try to help them out, but try not to leave out someone else in the process.
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Try not to leave out someone else in the process. We appreciate people going out of their way to do pick-ups, but please be as fair as possible.
 
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'''4. A person doing pick-ups should not be sniping rares.'''<br>
 
'''4. A person doing pick-ups should not be sniping rares.'''<br>
 
We have been informed that some people may be using pick-ups as a way of getting extra rare/special eggs. They pull eggs for their pick-ups, but choose to keep the rarest ones and give the less rare ones to the people who have paid for their eggs. We don't believe that this rare-sniping is fair, at all.
 
We have been informed that some people may be using pick-ups as a way of getting extra rare/special eggs. They pull eggs for their pick-ups, but choose to keep the rarest ones and give the less rare ones to the people who have paid for their eggs. We don't believe that this rare-sniping is fair, at all.
 
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We ask that you have a slip of paper with the details on who you are picking up for, and what they want. Before you choose an egg for someone, you should state who you are picking up for. We will note their name and the result of your pick.
 
  
* '''Situation #1:''' If you should pick something and find out that it isn't what they were hoping for -- Please contact them (text/pm/etc.) and tell them what you pulled, send them a picture if you can. They can then choose to keep your pick, or relinquish it to you so you can pick again.
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If we find out someone plucks a rare/uncommon/specially marked/etc. Wyrm for someone else, and then keeps it for themselves, we will disallow that person from doing pick-ups again and the Wyrm in question will be marked as sterile. The same goes for people who claim all the Wyrms are for them personally, when some are pick-ups (without telling us). Both of these may result in a 'strike'.  
* '''Situation #2:''' You pick a Wyrm for yourself, and find out that it better fits one of your pick-ups. You can show us your pick-up list, we'll verify it is something that one of those people requested, and adjust our notes.
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If we find out someone plucks a rare/uncommon/specially marked/etc. Wyrm for someone else, and then keeps it for themselves, we will disallow that person from doing pick-ups again and neuter the Wyrm in question. The same goes for people who claim all the Wyrms are for them personally, when some are pick-ups (without telling us). Both of these may result in a 'strike'.  
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We appreciate people going out of their way to do pick-ups, but please be fair.
 
  
 
= Con Behavior =
 
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'''1. If you see that we are running behind, please give us space!'''
 
'''1. If you see that we are running behind, please give us space!'''
 
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Alas, like most artists, we are not the most organized people in the world. Sometimes eggs need to be bagged. Sometimes pins need to be glued on. Sometimes we just need a bit more time to do set-up because a toddler delayed us getting down to the dealer hall on time.  
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Alas, like most artists, we are not the most organized people in the world. Sometimes eggs need to be bagged. Sometimes pins need to be glued on. Sometimes we just need a bit more time to do set-up because something delayed us getting down to the dealer hall on time.  
 
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If we tell you that we are running behind, please step back from the table and give us some space. We will usually try to tell you when we expect to be open. Do NOT loom around the table while we are trying to work. These are blind-draw items so obviously we don’t want you to see them before their eggs go out.  Take it as an opportunity to visit the other vendors at the con and come back at the time that we’ve posted.  
 
If we tell you that we are running behind, please step back from the table and give us some space. We will usually try to tell you when we expect to be open. Do NOT loom around the table while we are trying to work. These are blind-draw items so obviously we don’t want you to see them before their eggs go out.  Take it as an opportunity to visit the other vendors at the con and come back at the time that we’ve posted.  
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'''7. You may not trade or sell your personal pick slots at a con.'''
 
'''7. You may not trade or sell your personal pick slots at a con.'''
 
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We have always had a general policy of only allowing sales/trades of items that the user has on-hand. If a handler does not have physical possession of an item, there can be issues with a person having to wait an unknown amount of time to receive their half of a trade. There can also be issues where an item is sent, but the future item (baby, convention pick, etc.) is never sent to it’s new owner.
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We have always had a general policy of only allowing sales/trades of items that the user has on-hand. If a handler does not have physical possession of an item, there can be issues with a person having to wait an unknown amount of time to receive their half of a trade. There can also be issues where an item is sent but the future item (baby, convention pick, etc.) is never sent to its new owner.
 
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There is also an issue with using other peoples’ convention slots as a way of getting around the daily limits placed on each handler. We cannot allow this, as it makes it unfair for other people. All trades must be transacted after the items have been purchased / are in the physical possession of their handler.
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There is also an issue with using other peoples’ convention slots as a way of getting around the daily limits placed on each handler. We cannot allow this, as it makes it unfair for other people. All trades must be transacted after the items have been purchased/are in the physical possession of their handler.
 
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'''8. Do not guilt-trip people who are making purchases.'''
 
'''8. Do not guilt-trip people who are making purchases.'''
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The same goes for any items we have placed in the Art Show. Items that are for auction are being sold to the highest bidder. Anyone may bid on an item. They may be someone who isn't involved in the game and only wants a collectible. They may even be a member of staff. All of these are perfectly acceptable. Please do not complain because you have been out-bid. This is simply part of the auction process. There are no hard feelings, and no one is doing it to spite you or to be greedy. You may defend your bids during the closing of the art show as is appropriate, but you may not block the bid sheets, or try to guilt/convince someone not to bid against you.  
 
The same goes for any items we have placed in the Art Show. Items that are for auction are being sold to the highest bidder. Anyone may bid on an item. They may be someone who isn't involved in the game and only wants a collectible. They may even be a member of staff. All of these are perfectly acceptable. Please do not complain because you have been out-bid. This is simply part of the auction process. There are no hard feelings, and no one is doing it to spite you or to be greedy. You may defend your bids during the closing of the art show as is appropriate, but you may not block the bid sheets, or try to guilt/convince someone not to bid against you.  
 
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Lastly, please do not try to haggle with us on prices. Our prices are set and posted on all items and we will not lower them. We will not be swayed by a sob story about your dire circumstances, either. Even on the last day of a convention, we do not /need/ to sell out all our items. We have a loving group of handlers online who would love to give any leftover Wyrms new homes. Please do not try these tactics with us.
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Lastly, please do not try to haggle with us on prices. Our prices are set and posted on all items and we will not lower them. We do not offer any 'Sunday Sales' or discounts.
 
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'''9. Respect surrounding tables.'''
 
'''9. Respect surrounding tables.'''
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'''10. Only Staff members are allowed behind the Dealer Table.'''
 
'''10. Only Staff members are allowed behind the Dealer Table.'''
 
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Due to concerns with fairness as well as safety reasons, we will no longer allow anyone who is not an official member of staff behind the table. In this case, staff is defined as: HopefulMonster, Arazia, ShadraAvro, AnimeAmy, YearofDragon, GardenToaster, and Dizziness. Anyone else not on this list will no longer be allowed behind the table.
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Due to concerns with fairness as well as safety reasons, we will no longer allow anyone who is not an official member of CDF staff (or current representative thereof) behind the table.
 
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We keep notes, money and personal items behind the table so we simply cannot let people come and go behind the table where things might get taken. We had many people raise concerns in regards to people possibly getting advantages by seeing what might be in the bins, as well. In order to maintain fairness, all handlers must remain on the buyer side of the table.
 
We keep notes, money and personal items behind the table so we simply cannot let people come and go behind the table where things might get taken. We had many people raise concerns in regards to people possibly getting advantages by seeing what might be in the bins, as well. In order to maintain fairness, all handlers must remain on the buyer side of the table.

Latest revision as of 17:36, 17 January 2025

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Sales & Trades Policies

In order to keep track and maintain fairness within the game, we ask that any sales or trades of CruinndracFarms items be handled through the Wyrm Trading Post on:
Discord

While we offer the forums as a location to buy, sell, and trade your CruinndracFarms items, we are not responsible for any individual transactions between our handlers. We encourage those interested in buying/selling/trading these items to use caution. It is up to an individual buyer to be aware of their payment method and the number of days they have to report non-delivery.

CruinndracFarms will not allow an individual who has had negative sale history to buy/sell/trade Wyrms. Transgressions are handled through disciplinary actions that may include suspension and/or banning of accounts. CruinndracFarms will not, however, reimburse anyone for missing/non-delivered items from these personal sales/trades/exchanges.

Sales/Trade policy does not apply to Wyrm pick-ups. Someone who is picking up a Wyrm for another handler at a con does not have to post it or go through specific trade rules in order to do so. The same goes for Wyrms purchased as gifts for friends/family. The only time you would need to post a gift Wyrm here on the boards is if it is already registered and you are changing ownership. Ownership changes can be done through the Official Trade Thread under the Wyrm Trading Post on Discord.

Rules

1. We ask that all trades/sales of Wyrms/Tokens be done through the forums.
This is not only so we can keep track of what is traded, but also so that everyone involved can be held accountable if a item doesn't show up, or has damage that was not disclosed. Personal trades or gifts (if the item is a registered Wyrm/Token) must at least be acknowledged with a post that explains that the Wyrm/Token was traded, the terms of the trade, and to whom. This helps your Scribe keep track of what things she needs to update.

2. All sales or trades of Wyrms should come with all of the following: Egg Charm, Wyrm, Datacard.
Datacards may be re-printed from the wiki for registered Wyrms and are considered valid for this purpose. If any item is missing, it must be disclosed at the time of sale. Cruinndrac Farms will not replace any missing Egg Charms or Datacards not sent from trades/sales. Handlers are permitted to make a wyrm a new egg charm.

3. Any damage to a Wyrm must be disclosed at the time of posting them for sale/trade.
This includes anything that has been repaired on the Wyrm (even if you cannot visibly see the repair). You should also specify if you come from a home with a smoker as some people are very sensitive to that smell and may not want to buy a Wyrm which may carry it in their fur.

4. Only existing forum users (who have active accounts) and registered Wyrms on the wiki may sell or trade.
A user must have have a forum account, with registered Wyrms on the wiki to sell/trade their items. Users who are not fully registered (known as 'gray users') may still purchase items.

5. Wyrms may be traded and resold as often as you like, though we do not encourage profiting off our work.
Wyrms may only be sold for their original purchase price + shipping. We do not want to see resellers or people attempting to use the forums to make money off of Wyrms they have purchased. If you need to sell more than 10 Wyrms at any one time, please contact a member of Staff for approval first. These are considered 'mass sales' and need to be permitted to avoid clashing with any planned CDF events/sales.

6. 'Black Market' trades/sales are strictly not allowed.
'Black Market' trades/sales are defined as sales/trades not made on the forums, which thus may not follow the rules/guidelines displayed here. We require that sales/trades be done on the forums for /your/ protection. Situations will be handled on a case-by-case basis, but may result in penalties to buyer/seller and/or Wyrm(s) involved. Please play fair. Items which are purchased or traded through other mediums may or may not be considered valid for breeding purposes. We handle such situations on a case-by-case basis.

  • Example: A handler buys a Wyrm from someone else on an art website. The user has registered it, but doesn't really play the game, so offered it up for sale to people who follow them on that art site. As we have no way of knowing the terms of this sale, we would consider it invalid. We would not transfer the Wyrm to the new owner, and it would be marked as STERILE.


7. Clean up your threads.
When a thread is complete, please change the title to CLOSED: <original title>. This can be done by editing your original post. Make sure the LAST entry in the thread explains who the item was sold/traded to. This helps to keep track of items that need to be transferred between users and can act as a proof of sale.

8. All Pre-Arranged Breedings Must be Disclosed.
Before a Wyrm can be sold, any pre-arranged breedings must be disclosed to the new owner. The new owner is buying/trading the wyrm "as-is", which includes any pre-arranged agreements for breedings with that Wyrm. If there are no clutchmates available, the new owner should honor the request during the season previously arranged. If there is a clutchmate available and the new owner wants it for themselves, they are allowed to ask that the breeding be held until a season in which they have an open slot/availability to purchase the clutchmate for themselves.

9. All Trades/Sales are At Your Own Risk
Any item that is sold by staff through Cruinndrac Farms is covered by our sales policies. Any items which are sold/traded through the forums between handlers are not. The forums provide a service to allow people to post their sales/trades, but we at Cruinndrac Farms cannot be held responsible for bad trades/sales. Understand that, like any other online purchase, that these sales/trades are at your own risk.

We generally trust our handlers to be responsible. In the case of items which are not sent, we will handle the situation as best we can by contacting the individuals involved and attempting to get things sorted out. We will deal with deadbeat sellers with the only tools we have available to us which includes restrictions, suspensions, and/or bans.

We encourage those who are involved in sales to keep an eye on the timers required for reporting a bad sale. It is your responsibility to notify Paypal within their time period and/or your bank/credit card in the case of a bad sale. We cannot reimburse any loss of funds/items from any personal sale/trade.

NOTE: Paypal's TOS requires that purchases be made via Goods and Services. This is /REQUIRED/ for purchasing CDF Wyrms from other handlers. You are NOT allowed to request funds be provided via 'friends and family'. This actually removes buyer protections and is considered against our rules. You may not request that the buyer reimburse you for paypal's fees, either. That is against their TOS. If any handler requests this of you, report it immediately to staff.

10. You only trade/sell items which you have in hand.
We do not want to see people trading or selling Wyrms which they do not actively have ownership of. This can cause problems if one individual sends their physical Wyrm, and the other does not because they don't actually have it yet. As such, you may only sell/trade items in your possession.

Included in this is the concept of exchanging a Wyrm for for an extra 'convention pick'. There are a number of issues with this. These are not physical items, thus there is a higher risk involved. Secondly, people are only allowed to use their 'convention picks' in order to do a pick-up for someone that is not attending the con. Thirdly, it would allow an individual to go beyond the convention's per-day limit on items, which is not fair to anyone. Thus, trades involving exchanging a items for future 'convention picks' are no longer allowed.

We will not restrict individuals from trading a Wyrm in exchange for someone paying for a future bred-baby slot, but understand that doing so is at your own risk. You are actually /far/ better off getting the same amount in cash. We highly encourage people to just do cash transactions in these cases to avoid issues.

11. Any confirmed/agreed upon sale or trade is FINAL.
Once two individuals have agreed upon a sale or trade, the item must be taken off of the market. You may not leave the item up in case you get 'better offers'. You may not change your mind about selling/trading an item after a final sale/trade has been agreed upon. This is highly unfair to the person on the other side of the trade/sale.

While we try not to get involved in individual sales, someone who breaks this rule will be subject to negative feedback and multiple instances may result in them losing sale/trade privilages. The only exceptions to this are unforeseen circumstances in which item is destroyed, or if both users agree to changing the original terms.