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This is where I will be showing progress on (hopefully) soon to be Labyrinth Wyrm! If for whatever reason I cannot claim that name my back up is Tattered LongMa (these name touch on their bases Labyrinth/fairy LongMa is a chinese winged dragon horse)

I first thought of this mix after I adopted my first Quilin at Furfright 2012, my first time trying to flesh them out was for the winter contest in December 2012



I called them Tatterlings at the time since I didn't have as much time to think on it. (they are in the top right)

Current participants are: Sciggles, Unyko and Silver Bullets

If you want to be a part of the process, feel free to message me or comment here to find out how you can help!

I am SPECIFICALLY looking for Qui Lins with the (◊) trait, I assume this trait means COLOR since the only ones with that trait have colored bodies. Yet to be proved though! I also need some male Tatterwings preferably with the (◊) as well.

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News

11/2/2013: Updated page with first set of babies for the breeding, there are a few traits missing and color issues but that should be worked out this next season!

2/3/2013: Update, I need to acquire some x2 horn charms to breed in both sets of horns, the first batch of offspring looks like they will have one horn or the other, it actually might not be a bad thing and may make breeding the next generation easier, keeping my eyes out for them!! -Also gave us a stable name!

1/29/2013: Page started! Will be uploading the current breedings from winter as well as the babies once they arrive!!


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What I am hoping/expecting them to look like, I put two options on there if they are given the white head of the Quis, I DOUBT this because I think I need to dilute the tatterwings to get the white face but either are acceptable outcomes to me <3



H(XX)
U(XX)
W(XX)
Standards have plumes

Breed Description

The Labyrinth wyrms are extremely rare! The few that have been sighted live in old abandoned castle labyrinths. They are very mysterious and hard to study but something about them draws you in to the point of obsession. Many have become lost in the labyrinths trying to capture one for themselves due to the many rumors that they will grant your hearts desires. If you find one to call your own you are a very lucky handler indeed!

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Breed Genetics

Features I am looking for (not all are on the cards)

-Tatterwing horns
-Tatterwing Marbling
-Tatterwing "cat eye" pupils on Standard+
-Tatterwing wings
-Qui Lin Horn
-Qui Lin Golden "eye brow" marks
-Qui Lin "freckles"
-Tatterwing plume on standards
-Tattering third eye on standards (I think that is what it is?)

Planned Breedings

Winter 2012:
Emerald x Sheogorath (Quilin x Tatterwing) - clutchmates received by Sciggles and Unyko
Emerald x Darkhorns (Quilin x Tatterwing) - clutchmates received by Sciggles and GossamerCrane
Gira x Sheogorath (Quilin x Tatterwing)- clutchmates received by Sciggles and Silver Bullets


Summer 2013:
Sheogorath x Emerald- Clutchmates Sciggles and Unyko



Clutchmate Info

Every breeding season, we will have a few wyrms who didn't quite make the cut for the breed standard up for adoption - make no mistake, these guys still make great pets, even for first time handlers! We will post any wyrms which we are releasing from the breeding project here, so you can have your chance to snag one! Cost will be the same as normal HMS pricing.

If you are interested in adopting a clutchmate and taking part in the breeding program, please let us know! Genetic diversity is important to us, and we'd like as big of a pool of potential wyrms to choose from as possible. If you do accept a clutchmate, you will be obligated to provide breedings towards the program when asked in order to push towards standardizing the breed. Please make sure you are aware of this commitment before making your decision! We appreciate any help you would offer.

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Current offspring

FARM BABIES
Female
Braeburn Imperfect-missing Tattering ears and wings and Qui Lin freckles (has colored face)
Male
Ifrit Imperfect-missing Tattering ears and wings and Qui Lin freckles (has colored face)
Shogath Imperfect-missing Qui lin horn (has colored face)



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News 6/3/2013

Two "horny" charms have been added! That means the double horns will be added NEXT breeding season. I do need clarification if that means it will now be in their genes to have double horns or if I will have to have a token every breading.

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News 2/17/2015

New art to reflect breed standard

I would be very interested in a baby from this breeding program. I'll be keeping an eye on it, especially since I love tatterwings.

The plume thing for teacups is genetic, but for Standards and above, pretty much all of them have a feather poof at the end of the tail, except pipefoxes. The Standards have unlisted perks like that, because of being bigger, more expensive, and thus the ability to be more detailed/ornate.

I WILL caution, however, the specific types of feathers are random. It's dependent on what I can acquire at the time...sometimes peacock feathers are available, sometimes not. And I tend to try and use feathers from local/humane sources whenever possible, so friends with birds/chickens/etc. most of the peacock plumes were from a friend who's aunt raised them. I've been out of those for a while, and have to depend on store bought ones, which I don't know the origins of. (And that always makes me worry...I like KNOWING the birds were taken care of and not just slaughtered for their plumage, yanno?)

Aaah~ Good to know! I thought they might be random, as far as I can tell there is only one standard Qui-lin and one standard Tatterwing so its hard to guess what they may look like mixed. I plan on getting standards of both myself if I can get those with teacup males interested. No matter what the plumes are I'm sure they will be awesome! Not planning on getting plumes on the teacups anyway

Seriously, lots of thank yous for keeping an eye on our threads to make sure we are informed on certain traits!!

I had a question based on your answer in the other thread though, if you do create a x2 horn charm and I use it to stack these two worns...will I have to have it on EVERY breeding I do? Or since the parents have both will be it be transferred? If a charm has to be used each time I think I will re work the design tonight.

Sciggles wrote:I had a question based on your answer in the other thread though, if you do create a x2 horn charm and I use it to stack these two worns...will I have to have it on EVERY breeding I do? Or since the parents have both will be it be transferred? If a charm has to be used each time I think I will re work the design tonight.

My guess is that once it's on an offspring (so the baby has the two types of 'horns') then all of that baby's offspring will continue to carry the 'merged' traits. So, rather than it being Horns (Tatterwing) or Horns (Qui-lin) it becomes Horns (Tatterwing+Qui-Lin). This is all kind of invisible since it doesn't show on the cards that way, but how we determine offspring. Now, any time you cross a Wyrm that has two different types of horns together, you have a 50/50 chance of getting each Wyrm's type of horns.

So... let's say you breed your Horns (Tatterwing+Qui-Lin) baby with a Horns (Qui-Lin) baby. You'd have a 50/50 shot of the offspring getting the merged trait.

Does that make sense?

I do think that the 2x-trait thing will have to be kind of approval only. Some types of Horns can't be merged, just as some other traits can't exist together because they take up the same 'slot' on the Tea-Cup's head. There's only so much we can squeeze onto these guys, so Tea-Cup designs have to be a bit simpler.

It would make sense breeding it with another type would make it 50/50 but breeding it with the same and getting both horns would be my goal. So by my understanding, my first experiment babies will have one or the other, hopefully the horn token will be out by the next season that way the next generation will be closer to the design. Unfortunately some inbreeding will have to take place since there aren't enough of what I am looking for in the gene pool yet :X

Updated the news


2/3/2013: Update, I need to acquire some x2 horn charms to breed in both sets of horns, the first batch of offspring looks like they will have one horn or the other, it actually might not be a bad thing and may make breeding the next generation easier, keeping my eyes out for them!!

Also added a Spring breeding between Cael and Sheo and HOPING *crosses fingers* it transfers color. Need more MALE colored Tatterwings :X

Also updated with Stable name!!

Sticking to the mythical/gargoyle-esc theme and chose Avalon for the stable name.

I LOVE this breed! Tatter's and Qui Lins are two of my favorite Wyrm breeds, so I can't wait to see the amazingness that comes out of this project. May I claim a clutchmate spot once you have everything figured out?

Kitishane wrote:I LOVE this breed! Tatter's and Qui Lins are two of my favorite Wyrm breeds, so I can't wait to see the amazingness that comes out of this project. May I claim a clutchmate spot once you have everything figured out?

Sure! I will let you know when some are available