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Hello again guys,

I was cruising through the Corander Estates website/group site and saw a member who had their own prefix for their adorable dragons. Also that Blitzava had dragon shows like the real thing for conformation ect. Will this ever happen for Wyrms? In the future will we be able to choose our own Den name (Or something like that) for those who wish to breed their own special line of wyrms?
Just real curious cuz I love the idea ^^


Cheers.

You can name your Wyrms whatever you like, including multiple names. So, if you want to name all the Wyrms from your Squirm something like: LightningBreeze's <insert name here>, that's fine.

As for confirmation competitions, I think that is more Blitzava's thing than it is HopefulMonster's. Most of the contests you'll see here are going to be art, writing, photography, etc. The sort of contests that involve creativity, and that anyone can enter (even those who don't have Wyrms yet and are waiting their turn to get one). Blitzava runs her game more like real dog breeding/showing where there is a focus on breed standards, where HopefulMonster runs hers more like a whimsical collectable game where more of the focus is on collecting, experimenting with cross-breeding, and being creative for contests. I just get the impression from my discussions with HopefulMonster that the confirmation aspect of EsCorander Estates is one of the many differences between the two games, and that she doesn't intend to incorporate that. (She can correct me of I'm wrong on that if I'm wrong, and I've asked her to take a glance at this thread.)

Just to clarify as well, guys:
These two games are 'associated', but they are not the same. The only place where there is cross-over is with the Hybrids. Some of the ways that Blitzava and HopefulMonster run genetics is different, many of the traits are different, the overall setup of the games are different, etc. They are two very separate things. Just something to keep in mind for people who are both Wyrm and Dragon handlers.

As for breeding your own special line of Wyrms: This is entirely possible! HopefulMonster has said as much. That's part of the fun of cross-breeding and creating some of the hybrids. You can manage to create some really neat sets of traits, and possibly even develop a 'breed' of your own.

No correction needed, really. As usual, our Scribe is pretty much a step ahead of me. :3

The conformation aspect of EsCorander's Dragon game is something that's kind of Blitzava's thing. She's a Bio geek, (and I use the term affectionately) knows tons about dog breeding, and has modeled her game to mimic actual dog breeding in a lot of ways. I basically took some aspects, tweaked them/discarded some things, and made the Wyrm game similar but different. They compliment each other, and Dragons and Wyrms can crossbreed, but we each have details that make our games uniquely our own. The Cruinndrac Farms game is a bit less predictable in terms of Traits and breedings, though if you pay attention and experiment a bit, you can breed for desired things and get a fairly good idea of what your results will be. Blitzava's Dragon game, on the other hand, is strictly regimented, and geared more for Biology/breeding folks who want a definite, predictable result to their breedings. Being based pretty strictly on Mendellian genetics, it's easier to know exactly what you will get when breeding X with Y.

That said, I am MORE than happy to see folks create their own breeding lines/stables, and add names to their Wyrm lines. The proper term for a group of Wyrms belonging to a single Handler is a Squirm, so if you want to make, say the "StormHorn" Squirm, or what have you, go right on ahead! Actually, I should do that for my personal Wyrms, and the Farm Wyrms. ;3

And yes, although it will be trickier, you CAN create your own Type or Breed of Wyrm through selective breeding. Much like the EsCorander game, if a Handler can produce consistent results for 3 generations of Wyrm, they will be allowed to name the new line. (For instance, if you we're trying to create a Wyrm with a single backs wept Qui-Lin horn, an Angler Eel face, and white fur, and could produce a line that created that for 3 generations straight, with little to no variation, it would be considered a "New Breed". ) Just a sample, but you hopefully get the idea.

Any questions are more than welcome, I'll do the best I can to help, but be forewarned....I won't give you the blueprints for creating the new line! You need to figure it out for yourself.

Thank you both for for answering my question <3
I'm certainly going to have to make my own wyrm stables, just coming up with a catchy Squirm name is going to take some brain power, urgh *Mind goes blank* But I guess half the fun is wrecking your brain for that perfect word discovery eureka moment. :3

I'm really liking this idea of creating my very own breed of wyrm, having my own little fluffy beasties out there would be amazing and something worth striving for :3 A growler eared, Jao-Di feather crested, Fluttering tongued, gem hunter plumed, Mushroomed gatherer horned wyrm would look awesome : P Eeee can't wait!

Once we come up with our perfect Squirm name do we give you a Note/PM Azaria? Or do we just wait till we register our next wyrm and start placing it on the front of our new wyrms names (Although I don't wanna leave my gal OSheia out)?

LightningBreeze wrote:Once we come up with our perfect Squirm name do we give you a Note/PM Azaria? Or do we just wait till we register our next wyrm and start placing it on the front of our new wyrms names (Although I don't wanna leave my gal OSheia out)?

Just start registering your Wyrms with that prefix.
Also, if you need to go back and change a Wyrm's name at any time, that can be done fairly easily. So no worries.

Thought I'd reuse this thread since my question is on the same lines.
So I was actually sitting down and going over my plan of attack for the new type of wyrm I'm trying to breed for (Which shall be called the Faerie Fox ^^). And as always when your thinking some questions popped into my head.

Q1: What ever your breeding towards you're gonna have to do some in-breeding and/or line breeding. Even if you managed to create two identical wyrms from different parents they are the only two you have and eventually to get strait 3 generation traits your gonna have to use the same wyrms within the family -_-. How will this be managed? If you created one wyrm (Or two wyrms) with the same traits would you be able to commission a few similar wyrms? Or could you bring in a unrelated wyrm and breed it to get a very very similar, but maybe not completely the same wyrm, and it could still be counted as a generation?
Eg: I had a canid wyrm with glow platting and wings and I bred it with a normal Flickerling. The baby comes out nearly the same but didn't have another near identical parent (It had the flickering). Would this be counted as another generation of the same traits??
Or wont it matter if you inbreed?

Q2: If you've managed to create your very own spiffy wyrms what happens next? Will the new breed be specified and put into the system? Will it be able to be picked in blind online clutches? WIll it get it's own lineart? Would other people be able to breed pure lines of the type of wyrm? Just curious X)

LightningBreeze wrote:

Q2: If you've managed to create your very own spiffy wyrms what happens next? Will the new breed be specified and put into the system? Will it be able to be picked in blind online clutches? WIll it get it's own lineart? Would other people be able to breed pure lines of the type of wyrm? Just curious X)

I believe this was answered as a solid yes. If you manage to create your own species (as myself and another handler are working on as an eventual thing) then they become official. It just takes consistent breeding for the same traits/appearance.

Thanks for that, just a wee bit curious to what actually happened after you established a breed (Or two XP)